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Re: National School Walkout

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Originally Posted by Annsdil View Post
Bullying may be a symptom towards an enraged child or adult who goes on such a murderous rampage but the method of doing so has become so easily accessible. People have a harder time (in the UK at least) to purchase pills to OD than people in the US have to purchase a gun. 13 yo kids have been proven to be able to walk into a store and porches a gun but been refused a lottery ticket! Yes there are laws in place to ban underage kids from gambling or drinking etc. So why are guns not given the same consideration.
That's the thing, Anns... they are. There are tons of laws on the books preventing the sale of firearms. That's the problem. The laws haven't helped prevent these shootings. The shooters who shouldn't have or didn't obtain their guns legally got guns anyway.

I want very much for these shootings to stop, and if more gun laws will help then by all means... more gun laws, please! I just think we need to stop being na´ve about what the real problems are. More gun laws won't solve the underlying problems that cause sick people to do these types of things.

I don't own a gun and wouldn't own a gun. So I'm not some random gun nut. But life in my world is very different from life in the worlds where most of the anti-gun rhetoric is coming from. Guns are necessary tools here in my world, not weapons.

What I don't understand is how it is that I can't take a bottle of water on an airplane or a Swiss Army knife into a courthouse, and a kid with a troubled history and a sea of red flags can walk into a school with an AR-15 type of gun? Why are these gun-free zones (another law on the books) not monitored and protected?

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As for teaching children they have to abide by and follow rules, in today's society it's more a case of do as I say, not as I do. Too many people in power are just plainly and blatantly abusing laws and rules and people they deem to be below them. Kids today are seeing that it's ok for people to be bullied and abused.
That's a huge societal failing. That's my point. Please explain to me why the kids need to walk out of school? Why can't they protest after school hours? You see? The kids - right there - are being taught that their opinions are more important than the societal good of educating them. I'm fine with the kids protesting. I really am. But not when they are wasting the resources that I have paid for.

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Adults are receiving validation from the President and senators no less that is ok to be racist and facist and xenophobic and mysogynistic etc. Are these the people we really want the kids to conform to?
I'm going to take exception to that, Anns. I'm not a fan of any of the people to whom you are referring, but I totally disagree that they are validating that it's okay to be racist, facist, xenophobic and misogynistic. There are certainly groups who are that way, and they are repulsive, but I think the media reports things that simply aren't true. I don't "think" it - I KNOW it. There are far too many hypocrites who stand up and point fingers at others when they think their own guilt is hidden.

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I applaud these kids. I'm in awe of these kids they ARE standing up to bullies on a much bigger play ground. These are the kids that need to be representative of our future and give hope that we don't have to resign ourselves to be under the rule of the current leaders we have. If they can pull this off without guns being involved, without any violence on their part and get heard by the world then I think they are our amazing and inspirational role models of the future.
It's a very fine line, Anns. You see, increasingly, these kids are BECOMING the intolerant bullies. I read a very interesting opinion piece by a teacher who was conflicted about the walkout, because he realized that there would be students in his class who didn't agree with it and didn't want to do it, but wouldn't be give then option to stay in the classroom.

Mostly I wish the adults would solve the problems so that kids whose brains aren't fully developed wouldn't have to.
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